When you interview implausibly tall Monmouthshire musician Nicholas Allen Jones, the second the round red icon on iPhone notes is tapped or the record button on the Zoom H6 is clicked, a large pair of sunglasses appear on his face. Regular as clockwork. Iโm not even sure where they materialise from. Itโs at this moment he becomes Nicky Wire; or that used to be my guess at least. I assumed it was, in some respects, the temporary adoption of a rock star archetypeโs carapace, a protective shield from behind which he was able to say the things that needed to be said โ the things that perhaps bookish Nick from Blackwood might baulk at. A tactic that allowed him to think, โWhat would Nicky Wire the famous and outspoken musician say when asked a question like this?โ
Today, in a nice hotel room in Bath, before a Manic Street Preachers fan club-only Glastonbury warm-up show, there is a lot of light streaming through the townhouse-sized windows and I can see that for much of our talk he has his eyes tightly closed behind his shades. So perhaps itโs not so much a strategy for keeping the process separate from his daily life as it is simply a way of concentrating on what heโs already decided to say.
Heโs a funny guy, to the extent itโs very easy to miss the essentially downer nature of a lot of what he says as he says it. Heโs erudite and uses about ten different words for melancholy in 90 minutes, again, dissipating some of the immediate negative implications of the conversation somewhat. Heโs good company and very engaged with the process of being interviewed but thereโs no banter, no wild off the cuff jokes that are going to come back to haunt him years later, no formulating new ideas or positions in real time. And certainly, as he acknowledges at several points, thereโs no desire to bad mouth other famous musicians and no small amount of contrition for the occasions when he did. Times have certainly changed.
As well they should. Heโs older now of course, even though heโs still probably the most striking looking 50-something in the majority of the rooms he walks into. Heโs formulating different processes to cope with the ongoing physical and mental stresses of someone firmly in middle age yet still playing a relatively demanding role in a very popular rock band. Itโs during the aftershock of entering your sixth decade that it becomes clear the sad and stark realisations of your middle years arenโt going to resolve themselves; all of that hectic โmid-life crisisโ energy and darkness doesnโt go anywhere. It hangs round like an unwanted house guest, looking through your cupboards for Bacardi and crisps, firing up Netflix. โItโs unshiftableโ, he says at one point.
A sometimes self-deprecating, sometimes bolshy, sometimes beaten down expression of this realisation about ageing โ an acceptance that your life has reached its terminal velocity โ informs, infects, amuses and salves at various junctures on Intimism his excellent new โlow-keyโ solo album, the follow up to 2006โs I Killed The Zeitgeist. The irony being that this is clearly a very well-executed, twelve-years in the planning strategy against melancholy. Or, to be more precise, a strategy to integrate and accept melancholy afresh, to embrace it, as if it were an old friend, while writing and singing ruefully about how it intrudes remorselessly into every nook of his life like a blinding headache.
There are two tracks on Intimism with the name โMigraineโ. The first of these slinks along on a bed of hissing percussive metal, with wandering bass and an angular guitar striking odd chords, all of which really provides the loose framework for a sun-scorched soloing trumpet locked in battle with a heavily muted twin. At the very least, weโre very knowingly being put in mind of โelectricโ period Miles Davis, specifically Bitches Brew, and more specifically again, the tar-black throb of โSpanish Keyโ. On the second of these tracks brass man Gavin Fitzjohn returns on trumpet but this time there are a number of different takes that have been spliced, edited together and layered on top of one another. Over the top of this psychedelic jazz fusion bed, Wire chants lazily: โNicky Wire is no more, heโs lying face down on the floor. His knees are fucked, his back is sore, his face parades a thousand years, his mind is numb, itโs full of fear. The makeup is a-runninโ, the tears they are a-cominโ.โ The keyboards ape a shattering crystal vibraphone and as the track boils over into blown out noise, the intrusion of vivid guitar licks canโt help but make you think of Mahavishnu Orchestraโs John McLaughlin; in spirit at least.
Usually when indie bands โgo jazzโ they are not altering the structure of what they do โ as good as tracks like โThe National Anthemโ by Radiohead and โMBV Arkestra (If They Move Kill โEm)โ by Primal Scream genuinely are โ it tends not to go further than temporarily drafting in outside musicians to sprinkle a jazz vibe over the framework of a more traditional rock song. โMigraine No1โ was free-improvised live in the room as a band, while โMigraine No2โ was, more in keeping with a Bitches Brew-mindset, arranged and edited from a number of different improvised takes. Nicky Wire was, for that afternoon at least, his own Teo Macero. Although he puts it this way: โI felt a bit like Captain Beefheart: instructing musicians while having no musical knowledge myself.โ Naive these tracks may be, but theyโre definitely not indie rock. Speaking as someone whose copy of Ted Gioiaโs How To Listen To Jazz sits defiantly half read on his book shelf, Iโll leave it to someone else to pontificate on whether this is good or even allowable jazz but I do feel qualified to say this much: itโs thrilling in this context.

Hang on a secondโฆ Free improvisation? โSpanish Keyโ? John McLaughlin? Inner Mounting Flame? Teo Maceroโs editing techniques? Thereโs no time for niceties. Weโre getting into the tough questions right from the get go! Nicky Wire, why have you gone jazz fusion on your new album? โThis album is a mosaic. Some of it is 12 years old. And 12 years ago I was going through a huge John McLaughlin phase. I was listening to a lot of Mahavishnu Orchestra. I would annoy everyone with Bitches Brew side two on playlists and in the dressing room. The way Miles Davis moved into rock and created something completely new and unhingedโฆ his band really didnโt give a fuck. Even though the playing is off the scale, itโs just really stroppy music.โ
Some of the other musical touchpoints for Intimism such as Big Flame, A Witness, even Go Go Penguin, donโt initially seem congruent but there is a through line: โJames [Dean Bradfield] was always banging on about Big Flame and I could never understand it. But then I played a record of theirs at a slower speed by mistake on vinyl once, and suddenly I got the jazziness of it.โ
Iโm only part-joking when I say I suspect that his solo career has been designed by committee to syphon off influences that could be disastrous to the ongoing trajectory of Manic Street Preachers, and Iโm unsure how serious heโs being when he laughs: โThat is 100% correct. Itโs such a big juggernaut just coming down here to Bath and then on to Glastonbury, setting up the visuals, the sound checks. Iโm not saying we’re the biggest band in the world but itโs still a massive vehicle to get going. I wanted Intimism to feel like it was less committed, more casual; but I did want to feel like it contained all of those things that are not needed in Manic Street Preachers.โ
The Migraine tracks are not musical degeneracy, thoughtless dilettantism or a trolling of longtime fans though. As the word suggests, Wire is trying to conjure up a synaesthetic, dissociated feel of its namesake neurological condition: a sense of โbeing brokenโ by migraine. He is at pains to say heโs one of the lucky ones as far as sufferers go but these events come, approximately, once every three months with intense visual distortion, nausea and an incapacitating headache lasting for two or three days; the sum being a โhospital ward feelingโ. His strategy for nipping these โcluster fucksโ in the bud sounds unscientific, mediaeval almost, but is in the main successful: โI bury my fist in my left eye where they always start and then lie on itโ. Then โstrong painkillers and lots of ginger aleโ.
Full disclosure: leading with jazz experimentation has been something of a misdirection. The rest of the album is anthemic FM rock, arena indie and Americana in its songwriting, while spiritually, and sometimes tonally, in some debt to the spirit of C86; Felt and the (criminally forgotten about) Weather Prophets as much as Wilco and the Pixies. Wire mentions Felt a lot today, as he has done in plenty of previous interviews. Occasionally, in the past this may have been to lower expectations over what might euphemistically be called his bass playerโs singing voice, as much as to express fandom. But โ without wanting to throw any more unnecessary shade โ Intimism is an album he could only have recorded now. No disrespect to the Nicky Wire of 2006 or 2009 but objectively speaking, heโs come a long way vocally since, say, โWilliamโs Last Wordsโ from MSPโs Journal For Plague Lovers. The change stems from โimproving technique, singing quieter, tracking more, spending more time singing to myself, writing in a particular range that suits meโ. Plus, as he laughs, โWith โWilliamโs Last Wordsโ I recorded one take and Steve Albini said, โWell, thatโs all of the emotion โ you donโt need to do it again.โโ Certainly why would you do a second vocal take when you could spend an entire half day checking the drums are micโd up optimally?
His singing voice now reminds him of a lot of the music he grew up with, harking back to an age when he wasnโt โfocused on the technical capability to reach notes rather than an image of who the person with the voice wasโ.
He knows there are plenty of record labels who would have put Intimism out and says it โmight have been nice for vanityโs sakeโ to have it pressed up on vinyl but heโs decided to release it as a digital-only album on Bandcamp via Sepia, in order to keep it โas me as me can be. The bit of artwork that exists is just a Polaroid of me. I donโt want the rigmarole of pretending this album is something that itโs not.
โI’ve just tried to think of myself as a 16 year old, going into [hallowed Cardiff record shop] Spillers โ like me and James used to at that age after weโd been busking to raise the money to buy the new record by the Triffids, The Go-Betweens or the Shop Assistants.โ
The cover โPolaroid selfieโ was taken by Wire while a callow second year undergraduate at Swansea University in the late 80s, and early evidence of a life-long obsession with the photographic medium: โYears ago when on tour with the band, Iโd be up at 7.30am and go out around whatever city we were in and take maybe 30 to 50 Polaroids. I wouldnโt really look at them. I would go back to my room and seal them in the hotel envelope. I still haven’t looked at any of them. Itโs a kind of art experiment. Those trigger points made a big impact and framed the sense of fragmented memory that set the scene for the album a bit. โ
Sometimes, musicians in Wireโs position want to signal that the press, or perhaps their own fans even, have them wrong somehow. The implication is there are invisible hoops musicians in successful groups are impelled to jump through, so they initiate a solo career as a kind of perception corrective, an acid bath which will strip everything away and reveal the โrealโ them. And to symbolise this new level of intimacy and honesty they โstrip awayโ all of the frippery and sit at a piano, or dust down an acoustic guitar. Of course, as often as not, this is simply another exercise in obfuscation, another layer of disguise to hide the truth which could be either be too bland (โIโm worried next yearโs tax bill might be too bigโ) or too thorny (โIโm irritated by my band mates and sometimes even my familyโ) or too painful (โI somehow lost my relevance without even noticingโ) for airing in public. So perhaps there is some honesty in releasing an album which is very big and brave sounding, but where there is a marked contrast between the FM-friendly, major key optimism of the music and the melancholy, beleaguered, rueful nature of the lyrics; a dialectic for those still searching for beauty when experience suggests it might now be in short supply. A massive sounding record, about to be slipped out with little fanfare while no one is looking.
He says: โI hate the phrase โthe authentic selfโ because I have no idea what that really means. There was an art movement called โintimismโ, which included the great Gwen John who I’m a big fan of, and it was about these mundane paintings of the interior, which were made almost holy in their ordinariness. I’ve always been attracted to that because I love the mundane nature of being inside. I can’t tell you how many lovely summers me and my brother had closing the curtains and watching cricket all day long. It was beautiful.
โThereโs a line on the album, โIโm not a socialist anymore. The social bit leaves me cold.โ I am still a socialist and I do believe in it but Iโve always struggled with the communal, social aspect of it. I see so much excitement and beauty in things like my memory of being 12 and in my room watching Steve Davis get the first 147 ever at the Lada Classic on a black and white TV.โ
There are a bunch of songs here that are โarena sizedโ and at least four of them feel like they could have been contenders for Manic Street Preachers-status but apparently they are โtoo fragileโ. MSP singer/guitarist James Dean Bradfield is a fan of the Intimism however and an executive producer, loaning dazzling sunburst soloing to โYou Wear Your Heartโ, slide guitar on โThe Ballad Of Baby Blueโ, bass and extra guitar on โKeeper Of The Flameโ and a solo on โTactical Retreatโ.
Wire himself played most of the guitar and bass as well as drumming on โPerfect Place To Growโ and โWhite Muskโ, while elsewhere the role is filled by Manics studio tech Rich Beak. Another person in the MSP team, Loz Williams is described as a โMensa-level intellectโ, โessentialโ to the project and being โlike Stephen Hawkingโ when working on music in the studio; he fulfils the role of lieutenant to Wire on Intimism, helping him record and produce the album as well as playing all keyboards and pianos.
Too fragile for the Manics or not, long lead single โContact Sheetsโ burrows into the consciousness and is another prism through which Wire can view the past: โI look back at Mitch Ikedaโs photographs of the band because Iโve kept all of his contact sheets, marked up with his chalk pencil. It creates this absolutely gorgeous warm feeling, unlike the cult of digitalism, of scrolling through pictures on someoneโs iPhone. Contact sheets are part of a vanishing world. Iโm so glad Iโve got all this stuff.โ
Wire admits he has become the de facto Manics archivist, something about which he clearly has mixed feelings. From the original chromaline plates of album artwork to original band photographs, he has everything stored โin an annexeโ in his house. Does it keep him awake at night? โIt keeps my wife awake at night.โ
He says heโs a collector rather than a hoarder but before I even have time to interrogate this suspect-sounding statement he blurts: โHereโs an exclusive for you: I do have about 100 flannels from different hotels.โ One hundred flannels. One hundred fucking flannels. Even spread over three decades, no one could pass this industrial scale larceny off as an accident, there must have been some nefarious plan: โI guess itโs the nearest Iโve come to criminality. But I am obsessed with both hotel stationary and with being in other places. With the song โSullen Welsh Heartโ I had to go to South Korea in order to finish it. I had to be in a hotel room in the most unWelsh place of all before I could finish this distillation of the Welsh psyche.โ
The extent to which Wire has moved into and occupied AOR territory is occasionally as stunning as it is disconcerting. The track โBallad Of Baby Blueโ is both genuinely catchy and vaguely reminiscent of the Travelling Wilburys. I mean, I like the Travelling Wilburys and their genuinely catchy songs, I donโt mind admitting it, but itโs also hard to reconcile this fact with his role in the Manics single โFasterโ, one of my all-time favourite rock songs, which I hear him playing a superb version of with the Manics later that evening. But this is what happens. Did I find โHandle With Careโ hard to reconcile with โAll Along The Watchtowerโ? With โWhile My Guitar Gently Weepsโ? With โIn Dreamsโ? Who can remember that far back.
โWhite Muskโ is written for his late mother and her unwavering love for the bright and cheerful Body Shop fragrance: โItโs five years just gone now since she passed away and, you know, for all my self-loathing and lacerating reappraisal of regret, the one thing I wake up every morning and think is that I was so lucky to have my parents. I would always want to buy her Chanel or something but she was always like, โNo, no, I like White Musk for Christmasโฆ and Tweed for my birthday.โ [laughs] My parentsโ relationship with our music was really important. They were so encouraging. As were Jamesโ parents. The money we needed to record [debut single] โSuicide Alleyโ was given to us by them. We would never have gotten anywhere without that. My parents really enjoyed me being in a band โ not in a show off way, but if it ever came up in the supermarket she couldnโt wait to bring it up. I canโt tell you how lucky I feel really. There are a lot of horrible backstories out there, but mine simply wasnโt.โ
Itโs during โWhite Muskโ that one of the unifying thematic structures of the album is easiest to discern: โWhen my parents died, it took me and my brother two years to clear the house. At times we couldnโt even go there due to the lockdown. There were so many lovely things to go through it felt like a tactile archive of our lives โ the actual substance of what made us the people we are today. The house bound us together so tightly it was kind of heartbreaking to leave it and I started questioning if memory can survive the loss of losing the physical entity that helped make the memory itself. A bit high concept I know.
โOur childhood school has been knocked down; the school that me, James, Richey and Sean went to โ and Joe Calzaghe, Britainโs greatest ever boxer โ and now thereโs literally no trace of it left. And Sound Space Studios, in Cardiff, where we recorded The Holy Bible? Fucking flattened. So I was asking, โIs it just the cognitive memory that remains after the place has been smashed to bits? Or is there something else?โโ

On the breezy โCalifornia Skiesโ โ as much a nod to Glen Campbell as it is Wilco โ there is a reference to the Manics saying at the Roosevelt Hotel in LA, with its decadent Tropicana swimming pool decorated with a David Hockney mosaic. It was 1992, during the bandโs first tour of the States, just after the riots. Wire was already beginning to feel that they had lost their way both in failing to break the States and also temporarily abandoning their British roots for a more Americanised hard rock sound, which would become most audible on the following yearโs Gold Against The Soul: โThe idea of America was obviously very big for us. I think the trouble was, in many ways, it was really easy for us in the UK because there was a route we could follow. It was: get a piece in the music press, then get a cover, then get Radio One and then get Top Of The Pops. And we actually did it in eight months with โYou Love Usโ. And then we went to America and realised that there was no pathway other than endless gigging and talking to people; and the press wasnโt to the same standard as it was here. It really wasnโt. And me and Richey not being able to play? It didnโt matter in Britain, but when we got to America it really did matter [laughs], so there was a lot of pressure on James and Sean to carry us.โ
Of course, this is not to say they donโt have a sizable cult following in the States. Recently the band enjoyed a โmagicalโ co-headline tour of large theatres in North America with Suede where he was blown away by how rejuvenated the other band have become since reformation, but the suggestion remains that it wasnโt a jaunt that either group could have undertaken on their own. If โCalifornia Skiesโ is a song of regret over not โconqueringโ America as a younger person, he is nothing if not philosophical now that heโs older: โFailure is such a huge part of being in a band. Without it, bands are just on a linear trajectory of boredom. Weโre about to reissue Lifeblood, which was a catastrophic failure at the time, as was The Holy Bible, but without them weโd be such a lesser thing.โ
If Wire sounds like heโs somehow resigned, itโs not true though; there are always strategies, outside of MSP, outside of Intimism: โI’ve been writing. I was watching a documentary on Paul Bowles in Tangiers โ my wife thinks Sheltering Sky is an absolute masterpiece, and she reads a lot more than I do โ and one of the themes was automatic writing. So I thought, โFuck it. Iโm going to write a book.โ And I feel like I’m cleansing myself through that process. I set myself a target of so many words a day. Iโve got a good title, Modern Fragments. Itโs a long essay. An interior monologue. No characters. Thereโs a chapter on the glory of bin night; a weekly peak of excitement for a man in his 50s. There is relief that the recycling is done, and when the council come and take it all away the next morning, it feels like a tiny but amazing victory. And I think having tiny victories in your 50s is important because you donโt get to have the big ones.
โIโm just trying to navigate things. Iโm anti- that sentiment of โWhat journey have you been on?โ I donโt fucking know. โAre you living your best life?โ I donโt know what that is, Iโm just trying to fucking keep it together.โ
And this is also not to say that there isnโt energy left for the project. He reveals they now have 12 songs written for a new Manics album which should see the light of day next August. He doesnโt want to dwell on it yet for obvious reasons but describes it as โreally fizzingโ and โuptempoโ with a working title of Critical Thinking: โI donโt know where we get the energy from; itโs not particularly easy being in the band when weโre all juggling so many things. Weโre all diverging. Itโs so easy to lose patience with people when you get to your 50s and we do with one another now. But 15 albums in 30 years. Weโre powering on. Like with Mark E. Smith it became just about the work in the end. And thatโs fine. Iโm trying to reach that rather than the energy becoming about everything else.โ
Heโd like to do a one off solo show for Intimism in theory, but there are no plans to play it live at the moment, and certainly none to tour it. Itโs a shame as these songs are begging to be played live. It seems dank memories of previous solo shows might not have faded enough for comfort quite yet: โI did a couple of shows during I Killed The Zeitgeist โ I was drinking then โ and they were horrendous. I remember playing the Hay Festival and people were just flooding out of the doors while I was stuck in this monologue about Italian wine. It wasโฆ unnecessary.โ
Although never a โgiganticโ drinker, he quit for good 12 years ago. When you donโt drink for a long period, thankfully, Iโve found at least, it eventually becomes second nature. I no longer think or dream about alcohol. But I do occasionally resent not having the quick fix means of thinning the veil, of loosening up mental channels, of conjuring the sublime, of easily sprinkling some magic across the quotidian. I mean, not everyone can fit things like meditation or a new spiritual practice or psychedelics into their lives, so how does Wire deal with that absence? โIt’s a really good question, because I do absolutely miss that feeling of slight abandonment of the senses. I do miss it. I just remember being absolutely hammered in Glasgow and writing the lyrics for โIt’s Not War, Just The End Of Loveโ. I just scratched them out on a hotel notepad without even having to think about them too much before I went to bed. I miss it. Thereโs too much going onโฆ buzzing away in my head. Itโs not particularly healthy. And my only way of shutting down is either via nature, or being stuck in the house watching TV or listening to Radio 4. And itโs been like that for a long time.โ
But this is starting to feel slightly too rueful, surely thereโs a therapeutic aspect to the making of melancholic art? Or does it just exacerbate the situation? โIt allows you to embrace it. Iโve come to realise anxiety is an absolutely natural part of being, and denying it is probably worse than realising it exists and then having to deal with it.
โWhen the Manics started I believed the Kierkegaard maxim about anxiety being freedom. I donโt necessarily think itโs freedom anymore but I think itโs unavoidably present in everyday life.โ
And with that, the glasses come off.