The Mess Of The Archive: An Interview With Hulubalang

Kasimyn of Gabber Modus Operandi talks Alex Rigotti through Bunyi Bunyi Tumbal, an album which searches for an unusually peaceful way forward from a turbulent past

After decades of colonialism, civil unrest and dictatorships, Indonesia has only recently begun to grapple with the question of what to do, post war. With the fall of Suharto in 1998, years of censorship began to ease โ€“ and current president Joko Widodoโ€™s election in 2014 sparked a huge Internet boom in distributing knowledge and power. For Aditya Surya Taruna, otherwise known as Kasimyn, one half of Gabber Modus Operandi, that question has taken up the better part of a decade, and has resulted in his solo project, Hulubalang.

Long before he teamed up with Ican Harem to form GMO, Taruna had been mulling over ways to emotionally respond to what he calls โ€œthe mess of the archiveโ€. Throughout his life, Taruna had visited many war archives, like the War Remnants Museum in Saigon, Vietnam. โ€œI would check the credits of the pictures, and most of them were anonymous.โ€ It was a visit to the Tropenmuseum in Amsterdam, The Netherlands, where Tarunaโ€™s mission became clear. Itโ€™s where he encountered the albumโ€™s cover art, whose caption only read: some man from East Java. โ€œThatโ€™s it,โ€ he says, resigned. โ€œThis guy was somebodyโ€™s parent, somebodyโ€™s grandpa. It became a commodity for my anger.โ€

Today, heโ€™s smoking cigarettes and enjoying the sun in Bratislava, where his wifeโ€™s family is from. Taruna finished Bunyi a few months ago, and is contemplative and careful when it comes to the intent of his work. Bunyi Bunyi Tumbal is his newest album, a reflection on the legacy of war in Indonesia. There are certainly conflicts both political and personal embedded in that, so when Taruna claims that the album is not โ€œpoliticalโ€, it can be rather confusing. To understand how thatโ€™s possible, youโ€™d have to look at how modern Indonesian society views the wars. Taruna generalises that there are two major camps: those who demand some sort of apology or reparations, and those who want to accept the war and start forgetting. โ€œPeople also have the right to forget things if itโ€™s painful.โ€

Indonesia as a nation has undergone several periods of colonisation โ€“ most notably from the Dutch and Japanese โ€“ but even beyond that history, there are tense relationships between ethnic groups. Growing up in the district of Tanjung Priok in North Jakarta, Taruna is descended from an ethnic Chinese lineage on his fatherโ€™s side. The group has faced severe targeted violence over the years, most notably in the May 1998 riots, where over 1,000 people lost their lives. That background has profoundly affected how his family has processed their history: โ€œWe donโ€™t talk about it, we shut it down.โ€

So perhaps thatโ€™s what influences Taruna when he says: โ€œThe media seems to have this tendency towards preserving old stuff. I donโ€™t care about that. Itโ€™s already destroyed. I care about my curiosity about how their feelings might have been when it happened.โ€ Even in that statement alone, itโ€™s telling that Taruna is too inquisitive about the past to forget about what happened. In fact, that speculative aspect of his artistry has seeped through GMOโ€™s work, imagining the possibilities of Indonesian dance music away from the strictly commercial demands of outsiders. As Hulubalang, Taruna is interested in a future liberated from modern politics, its consequences, and its connotations.

โ€œLetโ€™s say thereโ€™s a village in my hometown in central Java,โ€ he explains. โ€œThey donโ€™t have any political or religious affiliations. Then the colonisers come. Then, from the city, the big powerful smart academics come, saying: โ€˜We need to be against the government, because theyโ€™re repressing us.โ€™ In the end, the village doesnโ€™t want to be part of anything; they donโ€™t care. Thatโ€™s what I feel, because at the heart of things, Iโ€™m an anarchist.โ€

Donโ€™t be tempted to slap a capital A for Anarchy on Bunyi, however. He is explicit in his assertion that the album is not supposed to bear a political stance. โ€œI donโ€™t think it matters for a Western audience to dig deep with this, because itโ€™s so personal for me that it doesnโ€™t reference popular politics,โ€ he explains. โ€œI donโ€™t want it to be an โ€˜oi punkโ€™ album, or an โ€˜electronic, left-anarcho albumโ€™. Itโ€™s more about feelings.โ€

That also applies to his project name, Hulubalang, which was chosen for two reasons. One: it captured the complex political nuances of Bunyi. Hulubalang were both territorial rulers and warriors from the 1500s onwards, and were most notably active during the Aceh sultanate. Though they technically operated under the Sultan, they also had some of their own independent power โ€“ in some areas of West Sumatra, Taruna says later over email, theyโ€™re considered anarchic. They fought the Dutch until the last Aceh sultan surrendered at the end of 1903, whereupon they switched loyalties and ruled under the Dutch and Japanese colonisers. The Cumbok War (1945-46) ended the era of the hulubalang; shortly after, many were executed without trial, people believing they had abused their independence. โ€œTheyโ€™re not really heroic, but theyโ€™re also not enemies. Theyโ€™re inbetween.โ€ He also used the name, he smiles, because โ€œthe word is catchyโ€.

The emotion that was trickiest for Taruna to capture was that of innocence, imagining a world before it was touched by history. โ€œIโ€™m not romanticising it, but I have a lot of curiosity. This thing is so far away from me, but itโ€™s so familiar โ€“ the face, the shape, the nature, the expression.โ€ In order to access that world, Taruna dug back into tradition to excavate buried emotions. โ€œPopular music is always in major and minor keys, but 100 years ago, more than half the world didnโ€™t know that shit. What kind of feelings did they have back then?โ€ he wonders. โ€œMy grandpa definitely didnโ€™t go, โ€˜Oh, I feel sad, Iโ€™m going to play a minor keyโ€™. The feeling is completely obsolete for them.

โ€œDonโ€™t get me wrong, I love blues, I love emo, but if I listen to traditional music, I find thereโ€™s a layer of feelings. Itโ€™s a crazy territory that I canโ€™t find in modern music,โ€ he continues. โ€œListening to Burundi vocalisation, or Bulgarian, Iโ€™m like, โ€˜What the fuck were they thinking and feeling?โ€™ Itโ€™s so weird and interesting.โ€ He refers to death rituals in particular, saying that death is more celebratory in Indonesia, and the sounds of gamelan singers attracted him. In a tourist area, the singers merely sound โ€œethnicโ€ and โ€œculturalโ€. But listening alone? โ€œIt sounds fucking creepyโ€.

On other songs like โ€˜Tunkaiโ€™ and โ€˜Buddakawanโ€™, he relied on the unique harmonics of Indonesian music, pitching up vocal samples so they didnโ€™t neatly fit within the octave. But in most cases, Bunyi was the result of pure experimentation: โ€œMost of it comes from having fun, not in a conscious, โ€˜I know this theoryโ€™ โ€“ not at all, Iโ€™m not that smart,โ€ he jokes. โ€œJust, โ€˜Oh shit: this sounds interestingโ€ฆโ€™โ€

Taruna is also interested in the potentials of distortion, both as a sound and a concept, and itโ€™s particularly salient when applied to his thoughts on postcolonial identity, something which he credits to American philosopher Wendy Brown. โ€œItโ€™s not about self-claiming whatever happened in the past, but destroying something for the future,โ€ he explains. Heโ€™s speaking from the perspective of GMO, but it rings true for Bunyi, too. โ€œThe beauty of this new world is when the marginalised are empowered by technology, they can decide whether they want to preserve or destroy. The best thing is actually when theyโ€™re destroying. If youโ€™re destroying the perspective of the culture, itโ€™s destroying the idea of how this culture will be built in the future.โ€

He continues: โ€œThis conversation of โ€˜are we preserving this?โ€™ โ€“ this wasnโ€™t happening to European artists. โ€˜Are you gonna bring back classical music?โ€™ They hate it already! Iโ€™m not saying Asians need to hate their culture, but it needs to have a free interpretation of what this can be, rather than just โ€˜oh I love traditional music, itโ€™s so spiritualโ€™. Everyone can do whatever they want.โ€

On the one hand, Taruna wanted to be true to his feelings, and on the other, create a future without necessarily erasing the past. It was a delicate, specific brief he had set himself, and he struggled for several years to fulfill it โ€“ that is, until Bjรถrk came along: โ€œIf I didnโ€™t work with Bjรถrk, I donโ€™t think I could have finished this albumโ€. GMO had been enlisted to help produce several tracks on her most recent album, Fossora, one of which was โ€˜Atoposโ€™. It is a record that channels the grief of her motherโ€™s death and pandemic-induced isolation into a plea for hope and connection. When you listen to โ€˜Atoposโ€™, it isnโ€™t hard to imagine how those lyrics may have helped him deal with the thorny issues of his own project: โ€œIf we donโ€™t grow outwards towards love / Weโ€™ll implode inwards towards destructionโ€.

โ€œBjรถrk is close to the Buddha for me โ€“ and Iโ€™m a full-blown atheist,โ€ he jokes. โ€œThe first time I got the files from her, I was like, what the fuck? But once I wrote โ€˜Atoposโ€™, I had a clear mind: this is how I should finish. Back then, I worried so much about Hulubalang. I didnโ€™t even think it would be released, I made it personally for myself. I thought it was some artsy bullshit mentality that nobody would understand. What I learned from her is that as long as you can articulate it and you know how precise things can be, you can do it as weirdly as Fossora.โ€

It seems that the answer to Hulubalangโ€™s question, of what to do post-war lies in acceptance; Taruna has found his own way to say that perhaps the most valuable course of action is nothing at all. โ€œI donโ€™t want people to use this narrative of: Iโ€™m going to listen to this because I want to support โ€˜the causeโ€™,โ€ he says. โ€œThere is no fucking cause, and even then, the cause is done. The only thing you can do is whether you like [the album]. Thereโ€™s nothing I or the listener can do about this.

โ€œAnd itโ€™s not nihilistic: I actually find it optimistic that I, of a certain historical, political and cultural background, can make art out of it; to embrace that these things happened. I can live with it and move on."


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